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Men cinematographed going into the canteen at Renmore Camp 6 Btn Royal Irish Regiment - Wonder if there are Records of this?

  • marie.eklidvirginmedia.com by marie.eklidvirginmedia.com

    At Renmore Camp 9th June 1917. Men cinematographed going into the canteen. Wonder if these cinema photographs are in the Archives of the 6th Battalion Royal Irish Records or at the National War Archives. Diary page link: https://talk.operationwardiary.org/#/subjects/AWD0003h6u

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  • cyngast by cyngast moderator

    Or maybe at the Imperial War Museum? I don't have any idea how to search for it there, though.

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  • marie.eklidvirginmedia.com by marie.eklidvirginmedia.com

    Re cinematography: Cynthia I asked a question 2 years ago about a cinematograph film and Ral with some research with others found it. He put in on face book - quite a while ago, it showed the troops marching, a man selling papers and a dog running around also it contained a photo of a young man who had been presented with the Victoria Cross. There was a link on the talk page at the time where we could view the film unfortunately I cannot find it now.

    I wonder if Ral still has the link for this film – it is very interesting. It was for the cinematograph film taken of Battalion defiling past Commandding Officer Etc. 13th Sept 1917 for the diary of 5th Division: 1 Battalion Cheshire Regiment.

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  • cyngast by cyngast moderator

    I remember that film. I think the troops were also eating.

    I made that remark about the IWM because I seldom have any luck trying to find something in their collections.

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  • ral104 by ral104 moderator, scientist

    Marie, the 1st Cheshire Regt's film is here: http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060022854

    I'm afraid I can't find the 6th RIR film you mention in your original post.

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  • marie.eklidvirginmedia.com by marie.eklidvirginmedia.com

    Thanks for your quick reply Ral. Some of our new people tagging the diaries may find the film interesting of the Cheshire Regiment.

    I suppose in the long run there were quite a lot of films taken and to find just one mentioned for the 6th Royal Irish Regiment, would be hard to find.

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  • erik.schaubroeckscarlet.be by erik.schaubroeckscarlet.be in response to ral104's comment.

    No sound?

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  • marie.eklidvirginmedia.com by marie.eklidvirginmedia.com

    There was no sound on this cinematograph film. Believe It was too early to include sound on any film at that time. Think the talking movies came in the 20's - but not sure of the date.

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  • ral104 by ral104 moderator, scientist

    I'm also not sure about exactly when sound became a part of films, but definitely not at this point.

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  • cyngast by cyngast moderator

    The Jazz Singer was the first feature-length movie with sound, released in 1927. The technology was being developed at the time of the First World War, but it wasn't successful commercially until the 1920s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_film

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  • ral104 by ral104 moderator, scientist

    It would be great to have had sound, wouldn't it? I found an old sound clip once of a VC winner (Sgt. E Dwyer) - he was recorded sometime during 1916, I think, during a visit home. He was killed not that long afterwards. I think it was the only sound recording of a serving British soldier taken during the war.

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  • David_Underdown by David_Underdown moderator

    There are some German sound recordings of British POWs I think. If I'm remembering correctly these actually include quite a lot of Indian troops interestingly

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  • ral104 by ral104 moderator, scientist

    I didn't know about them, David - thanks for the info!

    It looks like the British Library have them: http://sounds.bl.uk/Accents-and-dialects/Berliner-Lautarchiv-British-and-Commonwealth-recordings

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  • ral104 by ral104 moderator, scientist

    If anybody would like to listen to the recording of Sgt. Dwyer, it's here: http://www.firstworldwar.com/audio/1916.htm

    It's called in 'With our boys at the front' in the list of audio files.

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  • marie.eklidvirginmedia.com by marie.eklidvirginmedia.com

    Part of an Article regarding Edward Dwyer VC and information regarding the recording he made.

    In 1916, Dwyer made an audio recording for the Regal record label in which he described taking part in the Retreat from Mons in the early days of the war. The monologue describes life at the front, pay and rations, and includes a sample of one of the songs sung by soldiers at the time. Both sides of the Regal disc (each lasting about 3 minutes) made for the British enlistment services are available on the archive audio collections Oh! It's a Lovely War (Vol 1) and Artists Rifles on CD41, which along with the Dwyer sides includes popular and patriotic songs, marches and descriptive sketch records.

    Dwyer's recording appears to be the only one made by a serving British soldier during the Great War, and as such is unique. Part of the recording was used in the 2003 documentary The First World War; the whole of one recording by Dwyer can be heard on www.firstworldwar.com

    Article link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Dwyer

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