War Diaries Talk

Pte. Bertram Corthorn, DCM

  • cyngast by cyngast moderator

    As always seems to happen to me, I found something interesting about one man while searching for information about another one. Anyway, this link http://www.pals.org.uk/sheffield/corthorn.htm tells the story of Pte. Corthorn, mentioned in the last entry as having been awarded the DCM for his conduct on 1 July 1916.

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  • erik.schaubroeckscarlet.be by erik.schaubroeckscarlet.be

    Interesting story. What is a AIII draft? (last line of paragraph under picture of memo of cpt Cowely)

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  • cyngast by cyngast moderator in response to erik.schaubroeckscarlet.be's comment.

    I don't know what that is, Erik. I'm guessing it was a particular type of draft, maybe of men returning after recovering from wounds instead of men who had not yet been to France. The paragraph seems to indicate that his name had already been included in an upcoming draft to go back to France, so his company commander where he was posted in the UK couldn't send on his application.

    I did find a Wikipedia article that states "...recruits were sorted into three classes, A, B, and C, in order of fitness for front-line service" so that may be part of the answer. Still can't find anything to explain the III, though. Here's the article link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recruitment_to_the_British_Army_during_the_First_World_War

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  • marie.eklidvirginmedia.com by marie.eklidvirginmedia.com

    Recruitment Table for Catergories WW1 Link:

    Believe the entry following: A3 - Returned Expeditionary Force men, ready except for physical condition. applies to the question. raised (A111) being probably (A3).

    A -Able to march, see to shoot, hear well and stand active service conditions.
    Subcategories:

    A1 - Fit for dispatching overseas, as regards physical and mental health, and training

    A2 - As Al, except for training

    A3 - Returned Expeditionary Force men, ready except for physical condition

    A4 -Men under 19 who would be Al or A2 when aged 19

    Article also includes B C and D Subcategories.

    Link: http://www.epsomandewellhistoryexplorer.org.uk/MedicalCategories.html

    PS - I believe I posted this Table of information a long time ago with reference to a certain query.

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  • cyngast by cyngast moderator

    There you go, Erik!

    Thank you, Marie! I think you did post this before. I know I've seen it. What term did you search for?

    I didn't think of medical classifications.

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  • marie.eklidvirginmedia.com by marie.eklidvirginmedia.com

    Firstly I did a search on Google for – Recruitment WW1 - and the following link came up. - which you also mentioned.

    See Entry for year 1917: “The healthy manpower was simply not there – recruits were sorted into three classes, A, B, and C, in order of fitness for front-line service. In 1918, 75 percent were classed as A, some B men also had to be sent into the trenches”.

    Link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recruitment_to_the_British_Army_during_the_First_World_War

    Then I did another search for 'Army catergories ww1' which brought the medical link up as mentioned.

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  • cyngast by cyngast moderator

    Thank you, Marie. I need to learn to think more creatively when setting up a Google search! I never would have thought of categories as a search term.

    Of course, I have to add British army to all my searches like that or I get primarily references to the US Army!

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